A Chat with Marlis Jansen, of The Money Conversation

A Hivery Member Perspective

We love sharing the voices of Hivery members and what they're working on. Today, we're showcasing Marlis Jansen, who created The Money Conversation to learn how we can change our stories and limitations around money and our value. 


What are you working on right now, and what inspired you to do so? 

I have recently created a company called The Money Conversation, aimed at helping people to create new ways of thinking and talking about money so that they can derive more power and freedom in their lives on their own terms.  Every one of us has a financial identity.  This is not our credit score, but an emotional blueprint that we carry with us and reference often, even if we don't realize we are doing it.  The Money Conversation works with individuals, couples and families and their advisors to help them access that blueprint, decide how they would like to update it and then to help them apply it to specific financial planning processes like estate planning, investment planning, marriage and divorce.

Can we change our financial situations by changing our mindset? What are tools we can use to change the way we think/feel about money?

Changing our mindset can create the conditions necessary for changing our financial situation.  As an example, many women are taught that they should not get involved in or "worry about" money. I think there is a shift happening right now in our culture that is making this less prevalent. But it is still very engrained.  It starts with girls believing they can't do math.  I recently had a client realize what she had given up by not being an active partner with her husband in this respect.  She completely changed the way she participated in financial planning.  With her new level of engagement, she felt motivated to get control over her debt as well as to reevaluate other things in her life that affected her financial situation, such as her career.

When I think about tools for changing the way we think and feel about money, I like to use assessments to help clients see where they are and visioning exercises to help them get out of their logical minds and into their deeper creative mode.  I like to guide clients through exercises where they envision intangibles like success, having enough, what financial freedom looks like etc.  These activities can take the form of drawing, journaling, verbal free associating etc.  There are also a bunch of online assessments that can be helpful.  WorthFM offers a free Money Type assessment online (http://www.moneytype.me).  There is also an online assessment that gets at the money messages people internalize, also known as "money scripts."  This one can be accessed at www.yourmentalwealthadvisors.com/find-out-your-money-script.

What advice would you share with The Hivery community on how they bring more financial abundance into their lives?

From a purely traditional financial perspective, financial abundance comes from living within our means and saving.  But this is, of course, a woefully inadequate answer to your question.  In our culture, most people live way above their means.  Our economic system encourages this by making it way too easy to take on debt.

What we need in order to bring more financial abundance into our lives is to really understand what enough means to each of us individually.  What it means to be enough, to have enough, to work enough.  We have been conditioned to believe that more is always better.  Creating more financial abundance often involves an identity shift.  Changing who you are with respect to money.  Ultimately, abundance is a state of mind.  I can make myself feel rich or poor depending on my comparison.

Identity shifts like this are difficult but doable.  We take on attitudes from our culture, family and social networks.  These attitudes form the basis of our identity.  When we become aware of the attitudes we have inherited about money, new choices become available to us.  With awareness comes choice.

How has The Hivery or the support to women in general helped you to achieve your goals and grow? 

I came to The Hivery first when it was in Sausalito and took Grace's (abbreviated) workshop called The Product of You.  It really inspired me to think creatively about how I could merge my passion wth my unique skills to create an offering that would excite me and be marketable.  The jury is definitely still out on how well I can do it but The Hivery has been a critical springboard for my personal process and for connecting with others who "get it," specifically with respect to the power of creating a career that is both personally and professionally invigorating.

What does it mean to be a courageous woman?   

To be vulnerable.  To me, being courageous means allowing oneself to be vulnerable in as many aspects of our lives as possible.  Growth comes through the portal of vulnerability.  


About Marlis: 

Photo by Kim Thompson Steel

Photo by Kim Thompson Steel

Marlis founded The Money Conversation with a desire to help people increase their emotional awareness and agility with respect to their finances.

Growing up in a culture where money talk is often taboo and realizing that emotion controls the human decision making process, Marlis saw an opportunity to address a need that is rarely met in traditional financial planning.

Marlis’ background running a private philanthropic foundation and as a member of a multigenerational family gave her valuable insight into how people relate to money.  This spans the gamut from multigenerational family dynamics to portfolio management.

Marlis is passionate about guiding clients toward a clear understanding of their current financial identity and then offering them tools to update any aspect of that financial identity that they no longer wish to carry.

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Continue to Shop our Holiday Market (virtually)!

In case you want to keep shopping and supporting local makers, here's a list of participants from our Holiday Market on December 7, 2016!

Janet Jacobs, Arts - Creator of drawings and paintings based on the landscape. Offering fine art and teaching services

Dolls and Dandy - 25% off all Woman & Men Products (Penhaligon, CA Baxter, beauty products and more! Additionally, 20% off gift cards

Sweet Pea Home Furnishings - a line of decorative bowls and trays. Each piece is hand painted in multiple shades of gray and earth tones, resulting in a one of a kind piece of art.

Bedouin Bling - Funky, cool, modern jewelry for you and your loved ones for the holidays!

Oak & Ashland - An ingredient-conscious line of skin and body products. Created by an esthetician. Made in the Sonoma Valley.

Doie Lounge - Eco-chic, super-soft robes and sleep masks, as well as some loungewear and dresses- at a special discount! 

Anne LaFollette - Mixed media art including greeting cards, photography, and original acrylic and hand-drawn pieces.

Transcendence Design & Sherri Silverman Studio - Art prints, notecards, incense, divination decks, Vastu sacred space design rectification tools: yantras, CD for sound healing. Info on design consultation services and courses.

Teri Garsten - Teri is an artist, jewelry designer, maker and craftsman. She incorporates natural materials, gemstones, leather and wood into her work.  Her goal is to recycle, up-cycle, reuse, and repurpose discarded materials into her unique designs. 

Lisa Joss - Gifts for friends based on original modern watercolor paintings by me! 

Lauren Massie Photography - Fine art prints for sale as well as portrait sessions available for purchase

Jasper McCarty Designs - Fine wood ware (cutting boards, serving spatulas, etc)

Epic Sky - Epic Sky girls apparel & jewelry, including original designs by local teen girls

Lisa Pepper-Satkin, MFT, creator of myHeartyKid -  This colorful handmade toy and guidebooks teach families how to grow everyone's inner LIKE button.  Families develop BIGlove for themselves and for one another in a powerful way!

J'Amy Tarr Outerwear - The perfect San Francisco jackets for women

EVA MICHELE - I design jewelry made from beach stones and SHE ROCK, a gift item for women.

J.Hilburn - For the men in your life, we provide luxury men’s clothing for both professional and social wardrobes without breaking the bank.

Rodan+Fields - Premium anti-aging skincare developed by two leading female dermatologists.

Navora Essentials - Navora Essentials is an aromatherapy company designing ethically-sourced essential oil based products, providing uplifting self-care rituals for your face, body and home. 

Beautycounter by Nikol Plass - A line of safe, chic and high-performing skin care products and cosmetics.

Three Circles Jewelry - Everyday 14k gold layering jewelry pieces

Parisian Macarons - Organic artisanal macarons, and gift certificates for Parisian Macarons classes

Rebecca Bruce Couture - Sweaters, coats, vests and scarfs. Many of my creations include vintage leather and feather and fur trim. 

Lori Knicely Artisan Jewelry - Handcrafted, original, sterling silver and semi-precious stone jewelry.

Julems Ceramics - Wheel thrown and hand decorated ceramics by Judith Lemmens, a Mill Valley based ceramicist creating functional, fresh, stylish objects for every day use.

Farmhouse Lab - Consciously Sourced & Crafted Salad Dressings

Wendy Verlaine Design - My exciting and one-of-a-kind hand crafted leather cuffs and gem necklaces are designed to showcase the luxurious quality and comfort of fine leather, and the color and sparkle unique to finely cut gems.

Plein Heir by Shannon Kaye - Refurbished painters boxes, perfect for organizing anything, or displaying barware, powder room sundries, and unique collections. Additionally, small plaques from my Good Fortune series, which are art pieces made with affirmations I wrote and had printed at a Fortune Cookie factory on fortune cookie slips.

Sparked - A board game with inspiration, heart, and hilarity! 

Heather Soicher -  Local, handmade ceramics with an earthy, organic motif. 

Elizabeth Street Cosmetics - A boutique collection of lip glosses, lipsticks, and crayons based in San Francisco. 

Seamstress for the Band by Gail Biddle - Creative sewing and crafts

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At our recent Entrepreneur Retreat, I shared the lessons that I've learned about life from dance class. I'm fascinated by the wisdom that being a student of art or any discipline offers us.

When we create as artists (whether in the traditional sense or the metaphorical sense of creating something new), we own and embody our work as an expression of who we are. We show up and step out.

You belong at The Hivery (yes, you)

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I hear these excuses too often:

  • I don’t have a business.
  • I’m not a writer.
  • I’m not an entrepreneur.
  • I’m not working right now.
  • I don’t even know what I’m doing next.

Women tell me they LOVE the idea of The Hivery. They're excited by the energy of our space and our members, but they wonder if they fit in. They aren’t whatever it is they think they need to be to come to The Hivery.

You are welcome here.

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